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Boxing
There's not enough fans here for me to create a new thread everytime there's a fight, or a big announcement made... so I've just made this thread to post my random boxing thoughts and news stuff.
First up, Pavlik vs Hopkins was announced a little while back. Very interesting fight. "The Ghost" is fucking awesome and, on paper, should fucking destroy the elderly Hopkins. But, as Hopkins showed against Calzaghe... he can still hang with younger fighters. But, Pavlik hits MUCH harder than Joe and is a much more brutal and accurate finisher (one of the reasons I feared Calzaghe fighting Pavlik as his last fight instead of Jones Jnr).
Be interesting to see how Pavlik deals with Hopkins dirty tactics. I think we may see Hopkins get his ass handed to him.
Story here -
Quote:Pavlik and Hopkins Launch Their Fight in NY Presser
Jerry Glick reporting: World Middleweight Champion Kelly The Ghost Pavlik and former two division Champion Bernard The Executioner Hopkins announced their, over the weight, non-title match at a catch weight of 170 pounds scheduled to take place at Atlantic Citys Boardwalk Hall on Saturday, October 18, 2008. The show will be telecast on HBO PPV, and is promoted by Golden Boy and Top Rank.
The media gathered for a rare breakfast press conference at BB Kings in Times Square; early because they are going to do it all over again at 2:30 PM in Philly the same day.
Hopkins, who turned 43 this year, called this fight, a blue collar fight. It couldnt be truer as both are as blue collar as has been seen in boxings upper tier since Marvin Hagler.
Hopkins comes from the part of Philly where they dont often grow bank presidents. He spent time in jail and came out to become one of the best middleweights ever. His ethics are well in place and he is a grounded millionaire.
Pavlik is a straight kid right out of Middle America. He just got married and is learning the value of his privacy; even in the city where they love him, his home town, Youngstown, OH, he has struggled to maintain his way of life.
According to his dad Mike Pavlik, Kelly has not changed, but the world around him has. Now he understands that privacy is a luxury, said Papa Pavlik. He took his little girl to Chucky Cheese and they had to leave after twenty minutes because everyone was coming up and having him sign. Thats tough if youre not used to it.
Since he won the title from Jermain Taylor he has fought, including this upcoming fight, three times but only one was for the title; similar to the old days when champions kept busy by fighting over the weight.
Kelly is in full agreement with his trainer Jack Lowe; both believe that the way to beat the crafty, sometimes a little dirty, Hopkins is with pressure.
If he gets dirty, I get dirty. Im every bit as big as he is and I rough people up on the inside too, so hes got to be careful with that, said a determined Pavlik. Ive got elbows, and I got heads.
Hes a dangerous fighter, said Pavlik. Hes still got a lot to entertain. We have to take this fight serious; we got to over films. The best thing to do is study the films and not let him get rough in there and have his way.
Pressure, thats what Calzaghe did, and like I keep saying, I dont hit like Calzaghe does, insisted Pavlik.
You got to make him fight three minutes of every round, said trainer Pavliks Jack Lowe. You cant win throwing 17 punches against Kelly who throws 100, 110 punches a round as Kelly does. Thats the difference.
This reporter asked if he was thinking knockout, Sure, said Lowe acknowledging that it would be the first one ever hung on Hopkins.
When we get him hurt, thats it. Kellys a great finisher, added Lowe.
Why is Pavlik taking a catch weight fight with Hopkins? Because, he said, there is no one else worthwhile or available for him.
I want to fight the best, Pavlik said. (IBF Champion Arthur) Abraham has a mandatory, Sturm, I would like but I dont see that happening anytime, and Calzaghe, everyone knows the story on that one. You cant call a guy out any more than I did on that.
As far as going to Europe to meet Sturm who holds the WBA belt, Pavlik, 34-0 (30), said he would, but only with HBO or another U.S. television provider along to make sure that if he is robbed the world will know it.
For some reason Hopkins actually shows a certain level of respect for his opponent, no trash talk, at least not yet. He did suggest one idea, though, he said he isnt going to bring an apple for the young man the way he brought other opponents things (think Winky Wright and a Twinky).
Hopkins said that he is still fighting because he can. It isnt the fight that is the difficult part of being a boxer; its training that he has had to maintain the determination it takes to continue doing.
Why do you keep getting up at 5:30 in the morning and training, Hopkins, 48-5-1 (32), said suggesting a good question to ask him. I think thats more important than boxing.
I was boxing without getting paid, said Hopkins as he held court in front of a group of writers. I was boxing without gloves and thats what got me sent to the penitentiary at seventeen. Fighting is easy to black folks in the ghetto, trust me. Yall visit there now and then.
Hopkins admitted that being away from his family for seven weeks and training is hard, but not the fighting.
I still have that fire to put my body through that, added the former Middleweight and Light-Heavyweight Champion.
Once I understood that I can get past the training part like I did when I was 30 or 20; look at me, said Hopkins pulling up his shirt to show his abs and small waist. I got to be the most fresh, 50 plus fights under my belt; never been knocked out, never been cut, never got beat up in the ring, in boxing history.
This fight gives one the feeling that they are fighting for legacy and money. No title at stake and at the present time, they dont even share the same weight class. Maybe those are the best reasons to fight. Maybe two true blue collar guys dont require a bauble to stretch around their waist and a title at stake. They only need to do it to see what happens. Its called fighting.
Both are confident and both teams believe that they have the correct formula to win. What more do you need as long as they work to entertain the fans. For sure, Pavlik has never failed to do that.
Also, talking of Calzaghe vs Jones Jnr... thats been postponed, not sure if you've heard. It will probably take place in November now.
Quote:Jones Jr. Discusses Postponement of Calzaghe Bout
Former pound-for-pound king Roy Jones Jr. has made a statement regarding the postponement of his September 20 mega-fight with WBO 168 lbs. and universally recognized 175 lbs ruler Joe Calzaghe.
It sounds to me as though Joe has a normal and usual injury. He had shown some concern recently about his hand not being ready. I still wanted to move forward with the September date, since HBO had already laid out the red carpet for a pay-per-view success when we took the De La Hoya-Mayweather date. But I dont want him to be no less that his best so if this is what it takes for that, then so be it.
Jones on proposed November date:
I have been informed by my people at Square Ring that the fight will most likely be rescheduled for November 8, 2008 on HBO Pay-Per-View at Madison Square Garden. I am glad we are close to being able to put together a new date for the fight within 24 hours of learning of Joes injury. I am thankful that the people at HBO and Madison Square Garden were able to open things up for us.
Now moving forward, Superman Roy Jones brilliant plan to fight Super Joe Calzaghe for titles in two weight classes has new life:
I had originally proposed something kind of different for this fight. And that is that Joe and I would first weigh-in for the fight at 168 and fight for Joes super middleweight titles. Then we would step off the scales, drink some water and weigh-in again at more than 168 so that we could also fight for Joes Ring Magazine light heavyweight title. I only recall this happening once before, in the Leonard/Lalonde fight and I think it would really add something unique to the promotion. Joe initially expressed concern about his ability to make 168 by September 19, but now that we have another 7 weeks, I hope that he will go for it and that the WBA, WBO and the WBC will sanction it.
On November 7, 1988, twenty years and one day ago from the new proposed fight date, Sugar Ray Leonard and Donny Lalonde fought for the vacant WBC super middleweight title and the WBC light heavyweight title. Leonard was knocked down early in the fight, but then stopped Lalonde at 2:30 of round 9.
(This post was last modified: 03-07-2015 04:28 PM by vega.)
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